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LINEAL ERA’S Tyson Fury said he was a lineal champion ,and being lineal was continual for 200 years. Lets see if that makes sense,also was he a lineal champ?

For me what makes lineal champion, and this is only personal.

1.If man A is beaten by man B then B is the new lineal champ,and so on.

2.If B was to retire.  C Would have to win a WBC  WBA or IBF title and four defences  total in five. Sorry i do not include WBO!/  Interims!/ Superchamps!/ Diamond!/ibo!/or any other daft belts. I had drawn the line in the sand long time ago.

World Boxing Bodies and rules

Boxing in the 1750 ‘s was not boxing more MMA with no rules. Boxing it was not. London Rules came along then Queensbury Rules, now its turning in to boxing.    A lot of this was later run by organizations in New York (centre of boxing ) .By the New York Athletic Commision and National boxing association.Later to become WBA and.WBC.  All these groups kept changing rules to evolve in to Boxing we know to day.

Era1 . John L. Sullivan to Bob Fitzsimmons 

So these guys gave a close to bareknuckle fighting  John L. Sullivan put together enough defences to get the ball rolling, and saw end to London prize rules. Late 1800’s.

  James J. Jeffries to Gene Tunney

The hand full of guys before were passing around the title very quickly. James  Jeffreis  established with five defences to be  the real champ. He retired,  Jack Johnson filled the gap with number of defences. Jeffreis made a come back by demand, and lost to Johnson.

Jess Willard beat Johnson .Then  Jack Dempsey beat Willard and finally Gene Tunney  beat Dempsey .  Jack Demsey  George Carpentier was thee first fight for NBA 1921 Tunney retired with the title, and left it open ended.

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Era 2 . Joe Louis to Rocky Marciano

10 years went by before Joe louis stamped himself on the heavyweight division. Before the 2nd World War.

After long reign Ezzard Charles beat ‘s Louis, Jersey Joe Walcott beats Charles.Who goes on to lose to Rocky Marciano. Who in turn retire s  unbeaten. Again leaving it open ended .

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ALI WITH WBC BELT

Era 3. Floyd Patterson, Muhammad Ali, Larry Holmes, Mike Tyson,to Lennox Lewis.

This is a long period,45 years.

So beginning of the sixties, Floyd Patterson makes his mark,but comes up against Ingmar Johannson  loses, and regains in rematch. Patterson then comes up against( in those days) the very big Sonny Liston who beats Patterson in turn Liston meets the Louseville lip. The Greatest or Cassius Clay, as he was known then .

Muhammad Ali is now champion. There was only two belts then WBA & WBC he has both . He falls out with WBA lose’s the belt. Ernie Terrell wins it.The two meet up a couple of years later Ali gets the belt back.Ali refuses to go to Vietnam to fight ,all the belts taken off him for three years. Late 60’s now, he is still the line king. But now there is a new kid on the block!

Joe Fraziers getting the belts now. Ali ‘s allowed back to fight,they meet Frazier wins and becomes the lineal king. For a short while. George Foreman kos him in a couple of rounds. Ali meets Foreman in the rumble in the jungle, Ali wins, in big upset.

In to the late 70’s now Ali’s put number of defences together, he meets novice Leon Spinx for what was supposed to be a easy night! Loses in big upset Spinx falls out with WBC, they take his belt back.Spinx Ali have rematch Ali wins but retires.  Again leaving it open ended.

Larry Holmes got the WBC belt by now and good enough to be new line king. Ali comes back out retirement,and gives Holmes easy night. Holmes wins with tko. Early eighties now Holmes falls out with WBC and goes with the new organization IBF.

More defences ,untill he meets a Spinx jinx brother Michael Spinx, and then Holmes   lose ‘s rematch. Spinx fails to meet there No 1 contender, stripped of IBF belt, but still line king. He goes of to fight Gerry Cooney ” The great white hope”for massive money.Wins the fight remains line king.

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MIKE TYSON WBC WBA IBF & LINEAL CHAMP

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LARRY HOLMES WBC& IBF BELTS

By this  time Mike Tyson was unifying the WBA  WBC  IBF. So Tyson won these titles,and beat old lineal champ Larry Holmes. Tyson had the belts, but Spinx as the lineal title. Tyson blew him away in round one. Tyson at this point was unbeatable!    Then he met massive underdog Buster Douglas in Tokyo, Tyson got stopped!

Buster Douglas next fight was Evander Holyfield. Tyson was having domestic and federal problems ! so no rematch. Holyfield stopped Douglas.He had a bit of a run untill Riddick Bowe beat him on points. Bowe was now WBA WBC IBF and lineal champ.The WBC stripped  him of belt for not fighting Lennox Lewis . Lewis became WBC champ.        Where in the early  1990,s now. Holyfield won a rematch with Bowe. Micheal Moorer then beat Holyfield .                                                                                                                                                                   Ex lineal king George Foreman stopped Moorer in a upset .The WBA fell out with Foreman for being inactive,and stripped him of their belt. He still had WBC and IBF. But thought it easier to go fight for some obscure belts never heard of before or since . Eventually putting his lineal belt on the line, losing to Shannon Briggs on points.

Lennox Lewis was getting the belts together WBC WBA IBF by this time ,so Briggs brought his lineal belt . Lewis won  rsf round 5.  Lewis is still the last man to hold the main three titles.Were up to the early 2000’s now .He fights Vitali Klitschko in what was end up being Lewis last fight Stopping Klitschko on cuts rsf 6.Lewis retires the following year 2004. Linear  now open ended! the chain is broke.

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Era 4. Wladimir Klitschko, Tyson Fury.

First i need to bring up the elephant in the room Vitali Klitschko! I need to make him a honorary line king. So why not a full one? Let’s start with loss to lineal king at end of Lennox Lewis career.Usually new beats the old. But in this case the other way round ! To be fair he most likely made Lewis mind up to retire. Then he decides to go for the less than premier WBO belt! But still gets stopped by Chris Byrd and then retires! So as you can see what was a head start over his brother turns in to catchup. So to me his last chance to get on the list was to beat his brother! Which he was (they agree not to fight each other) never going to do. Still great career,pity it arrived at same time as is brother.

Wladimir Klitschko who had the odd set back himself Ross Purittey ,Corrie Sanders ,and Lamont Brewster. But later got is act together,and later put up record amount of defences. By the end of is career, he became Line King, WBA and IBF Champ.images (1)

Tyson Fury  Fought Klitschko  in Germany November 2015,as the big eccentric english underdog. Pulled of big upset. Different mental problems and drug issues stopped rematch.He as not fought since! Hopefully he will come back 2018, and continue the line.

Lineal 1st Champ in order.                               By Ring Magazine  Founded 1923                        But i will give my slant on things if i disagree.

Were i have doubt the ink will be lighter.Even there list can not be definitive as it is subjective.

John L. Sullivan (usa)  Pictured    images (2)    Peter Jackson( Vi  Isles) Honorary Mention         James J. Corbett (usa)                                                                                                                                  Bob Fitzsimmons (uk)                                                                                                                                  James J. Jeffries (usa) (retired)

Marvin Hart (usa)                                                                                                                                        Tommy Burns(Can)                                                                                                                                       Jack Johnson(usa)           Sam Langford (Can)  Honorary Mention                                                          Jess Willard (usa)     Harry Willis(usa)  Honorary Mention                                                                 Jack Demsey(usa)                                                                                                                                 Gene Tunney (usa) (Retires)                                                                                                                                      —                                                                                                                                                 Max Schmeling (Ger)                                                                                                                               Jack Sharkey (usa)                                                                                                                                                    Primo Carnera (It )                                                                                                                                           Max Baer usa                                                                                                                                                       James J. Braddock (usa)                                                                                                                                      Joe Louis (usa) (Retires)                                                                                                                                —                                                                                                  Ezzard Charles (usa)                                                                                                                                    Jersey Joe Walcott usa                                                                                                                 Rocky Marciano usa (Retires)                                                                                                                                    —

images                                                                                                                                                                             Floyd Patterson (usa)                                                                                                                               Ingmar Johannson(sweden)                                                                                                                   Floyd Patterson(usa)                                                                                                                               Sonny Liston(usa)                                                                                                                                      Cassius Clay(usa)                                                                                                                                      Joe Frazier(usa)                                                                                                                                      George Foreman(usa)                                                                                                                              Muhammad Ali(usa)                                                                                                                                        Leon Spinx(usa)       Ken Norton (us) Honorary Mention.                                                                                                                                             Muhammad Ali(usa) (Retires)                                                                                                                                           —                                                                                                                                                       Larry Holmes(usa)                                                                                                                                  Michael Spinx(usa                                                                                                                                  Mike Tyson(usa                                                                                                                                       Buster Douglas(usa)                                                                                                                           Evander Holyfeild(usa)                                                                                                                       Riddick Bowe(usa)                                                                                                                              Evander Holyfeild(usa)                                                                                                                       Michael Moorer(usa)                                                                                                                               George Foreman(usa)                                                                                                                                             Shannon Briggs(usa)                                Lennox Lewis(uk)                            Hasim Rahman(usa)                                                                                                                                              Lennox Lewis(uk) (retires)                                                                                                                                      —                                                                                                  Honorary Champ        Vitali Klitschko (ukraine)                                                                                                                                            Wladimir Klitschko (ukraine)                                                                                        Tyson Fury(uk)                                               Tyson Fury’s inactive 2½ years in April 2018. Ring Magazine would normally take there belt of him by now! But should they!!!

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RING MAGAZINE LINEAL BELT

2nd Feb 2018 Ring Magazine taken back belt for inactivity on Fury part! But even without the belt technically he still is lineal champ!

Lets go back to the world champs NOT on the lineal list. Won , defended, or drawn fights will have amount with sign next to it Eg: 3*

WBC  Tim Witherspoon 2*,Pinklon Thomas, Trevor Berbick, Oliver McCall, Oleg Maskaev, Samuel Peter, Bermane Stiverine, Deontay Wilder 10*.                                                               WBA Ernie  Terrell 2*, Jimmy Ellis 2*, John Tate, Mike Weaver 3*, Mike Dokes, Gerrie Coetzee, Greg Page, Tony Tubbs, Tim Witherspoon, James Smith, Bruce Seldon 2*, John Ruiz, Roy Jones, Nikolay Valuev, Ruslan Chagaev, David Haye.                                                                           IBF Tony Tucker, Chris Byrd 5*, Charles Martin, Anthony Joshua 7*.                                                                                  You know i do not do regular, ibo or any other daft belt on this blog.

This as got to be irony from Ring Magazine May 2018 cover!!

Lineal Champ the same belt they took off him a couple of month before ?

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TYSON FURY Announces return 9 June 2018 !!! SEFER SEFERI From ALBANIA the opponent.

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WBC Champ DEONTAY WILDER vs Lineal Champ TYSON FURY     1 st December 2018

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WILDER, FURY Battle to draw!! In epic fight. Both titles stay as before.                                  But general thinking is FURY won! A draw away from home is a win!

TYSON FURY wins over unbeaten untested German TOM SCHWARTZ June 15/19 !!! No real meaning in this ,more of a PR stunt than anything else.

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